mark vs nena

Tyrielegend wrote:

Jimmy Jay Iommi Blackmore wrote:I await markp's answer upon this matter, whether he wants a mass count or not, if not continue as normal, if he does, i'll evaluate the match which leads to two conclusions, you disqualification or validity of the fight.
And besides if i had something against you personally you would know by now.
Continue discussing matters which have talked over plenty of times, no rule change will occur.

go ahead man, even if u discounted certain rounds of i used maybe 2 massive smore than mark,. i would still win in rounds.

Tyrielegend wrote:

RedSphinx wrote:Please take out *Recoil* because you don't do recoil, you just need someone to charge your sword so you can massive, right?

nah only times whne i massive without Recoil are when i midair ... Else I RECOIL everysingle time i massive and sometimes i dont even massive after recoil that i just walk and go around opponent and slash his back.. but i recoil more than massive and i dont massive unless i recoil first.. even if i miss the massive.. 90% of my massives are after opponent gets recoiled.-

williewodka wrote:

Tyrielegend wrote:

RedSphinx wrote:Please take out *Recoil* because you don't do recoil, you just need someone to charge your sword so you can massive, right?

nah only times whne i massive without Recoil are when i midair ... Else I RECOIL everysingle time i massive and sometimes i dont even massive after recoil that i just walk and go around opponent and slash his back.. but i recoil more than massive and i dont massive unless i recoil first.. even if i miss the massive.. 90% of my massives are after opponent gets recoiled.-

6 massives 3 recoils in first 40 second of markp's vid

williewodka wrote:

williewodka wrote:

Tyrielegend wrote:

RedSphinx wrote:Please take out *Recoil* because you don't do recoil, you just need someone to charge your sword so you can massive, right?

nah only times whne i massive without Recoil are when i midair ... Else I RECOIL everysingle time i massive and sometimes i dont even massive after recoil that i just walk and go around opponent and slash his back.. but i recoil more than massive and i dont massive unless i recoil first.. even if i miss the massive.. 90% of my massives are after opponent gets recoiled.-

6 massives 3 recoils in first 40 second of markp's vid

soo 200% of ur massives are after ur opponent gets recoiled right ?

Tyrielegend wrote:

williewodka wrote:

williewodka wrote:

Tyrielegend wrote:

RedSphinx wrote:Please take out *Recoil* because you don't do recoil, you just need someone to charge your sword so you can massive, right?

nah only times whne i massive without Recoil are when i midair ... Else I RECOIL everysingle time i massive and sometimes i dont even massive after recoil that i just walk and go around opponent and slash his back.. but i recoil more than massive and i dont massive unless i recoil first.. even if i miss the massive.. 90% of my massives are after opponent gets recoiled.-

6 massives 3 recoils in first 40 second of markp's vid

soo 200% of ur massives are after ur opponent gets recoiled right ?

look the video mark posted lol u see there:P i dont use massive lots unless i recoil first.

Diego es muy pro wrote:Masszilla

WRUM! wrote:Stop QQing about massives. If anyone tells me I can't massive in fights I'll tell them they can't go tipslash range. Seriously.

Recoil and massive range end at about 260 units. Tipslash range ends at 380-390 units! Seeing as most of you stay at tipslash range - I know, I checked with ABBY before she could even block, I don't see the reason for all of this.

And no, you don't need to peddle to avoid massive spammers, just keep them at tipslash range. Block release animation takes about 200something milliseconds to complete, which would mean that if someone blockrushed at you you'd have enough time to reverse bf them and get away in those 200milliseconds (that's not including the massive animation delay).

I have stayed in one place in all fights for the last couple of weeks just blocking and trying to recoil people and watching the slash distance with ABBY. And you know what? Most of you guys slashspam at tipslash range at a stationary target. A lot of times when I do get a recoil (and decide not to massive so you guys don't QQ about spam) my opponent runs away as I get the first slash in.

Could I call that lame? Probably. But I don't because tipslash is a part of GLADIATOR. Same as massives. So stop QQing and change your tactics when you fight different opponents.

/rage off

GokuLowClass wrote:

Diego es muy pro wrote:Masszilla

WRUM! wrote:Stop QQing about massives. If anyone tells me I can't massive in fights I'll tell them they can't go tipslash range. Seriously.

Recoil and massive range end at about 260 units. Tipslash range ends at 380-390 units! Seeing as most of you stay at tipslash range - I know, I checked with ABBY before she could even block, I don't see the reason for all of this.

And no, you don't need to peddle to avoid massive spammers, just keep them at tipslash range. Block release animation takes about 200something milliseconds to complete, which would mean that if someone blockrushed at you you'd have enough time to reverse bf them and get away in those 200milliseconds (that's not including the massive animation delay).

I have stayed in one place in all fights for the last couple of weeks just blocking and trying to recoil people and watching the slash distance with ABBY. And you know what? Most of you guys slashspam at tipslash range at a stationary target. A lot of times when I do get a recoil (and decide not to massive so you guys don't QQ about spam) my opponent runs away as I get the first slash in.

Could I call that lame? Probably. But I don't because tipslash is a part of GLADIATOR. Same as massives. So stop QQing and change your tactics when you fight different opponents.

/rage off

Tyrielegend wrote:

GokuLowClass wrote:

Diego es muy pro wrote:Masszilla

WRUM! wrote:Stop QQing about massives. If anyone tells me I can't massive in fights I'll tell them they can't go tipslash range. Seriously.

Recoil and massive range end at about 260 units. Tipslash range ends at 380-390 units! Seeing as most of you stay at tipslash range - I know, I checked with ABBY before she could even block, I don't see the reason for all of this.

And no, you don't need to peddle to avoid massive spammers, just keep them at tipslash range. Block release animation takes about 200something milliseconds to complete, which would mean that if someone blockrushed at you you'd have enough time to reverse bf them and get away in those 200milliseconds (that's not including the massive animation delay).

I have stayed in one place in all fights for the last couple of weeks just blocking and trying to recoil people and watching the slash distance with ABBY. And you know what? Most of you guys slashspam at tipslash range at a stationary target. A lot of times when I do get a recoil (and decide not to massive so you guys don't QQ about spam) my opponent runs away as I get the first slash in.

Could I call that lame? Probably. But I don't because tipslash is a part of GLADIATOR. Same as massives. So stop QQing and change your tactics when you fight different opponents.

/rage off

wrum is my hero

GokuLowClass wrote:

Diego es muy pro wrote:Masszilla

WRUM! wrote:Stop QQing about massives. If anyone tells me I can't massive in fights I'll tell them they can't go tipslash range. Seriously.

Recoil and massive range end at about 260 units. Tipslash range ends at 380-390 units! Seeing as most of you stay at tipslash range - I know, I checked with ABBY before she could even block, I don't see the reason for all of this.

And no, you don't need to peddle to avoid massive spammers, just keep them at tipslash range. Block release animation takes about 200something milliseconds to complete, which would mean that if someone blockrushed at you you'd have enough time to reverse bf them and get away in those 200milliseconds (that's not including the massive animation delay).

I have stayed in one place in all fights for the last couple of weeks just blocking and trying to recoil people and watching the slash distance with ABBY. And you know what? Most of you guys slashspam at tipslash range at a stationary target. A lot of times when I do get a recoil (and decide not to massive so you guys don't QQ about spam) my opponent runs away as I get the first slash in.

Could I call that lame? Probably. But I don't because tipslash is a part of GLADIATOR. Same as massives. So stop QQing and change your tactics when you fight different opponents.

/rage off

WRUM! wrote:Also, the massive delay is 200ms. That's a total of 400ms delay if your opponent massives immediately after getting one - that's if we ignore your ping, which would give you some extra time.

WRUM! wrote:

Lancegeis wrote:maybe i'm wrong but the ijji's massives have a very larger area no? :O i always feel like i'm massived from nowhere and i do so many massives from a long range which still touch my opponent on this server.

Haven't logged the range on ijji so I can't tell for sure.

Also, the massive delay is 200ms. That's a total of 400ms delay if your opponent massives immediately after getting one - that's if we ignore your ping, which would give you some extra time.

NOTMARKP wrote:

WRUM! wrote:

Lancegeis wrote:maybe i'm wrong but the ijji's massives have a very larger area no? :O i always feel like i'm massived from nowhere and i do so many massives from a long range which still touch my opponent on this server.

Haven't logged the range on ijji so I can't tell for sure.

Also, the massive delay is 200ms. That's a total of 400ms delay if your opponent massives immediately after getting one - that's if we ignore your ping, which would give you some extra time.

uh why does it turn into 400 ms

*Crawly-chan* =^_^= (b")b wrote:

NOTMARKP wrote:

WRUM! wrote:

Lancegeis wrote:maybe i'm wrong but the ijji's massives have a very larger area no? :O i always feel like i'm massived from nowhere and i do so many massives from a long range which still touch my opponent on this server.

Haven't logged the range on ijji so I can't tell for sure.

Also, the massive delay is 200ms. That's a total of 400ms delay if your opponent massives immediately after getting one - that's if we ignore your ping, which would give you some extra time.

uh why does it turn into 400 ms

hit -> 200 ms block release -> 200 ms massive
aerial massives are a bit faster though I think

GokuLowClass wrote:

Diego es muy pro wrote:Masszilla

WRUM! wrote:Stop QQing about massives. If anyone tells me I can't massive in fights I'll tell them they can't go tipslash range. Seriously.

Recoil and massive range end at about 260 units. Tipslash range ends at 380-390 units! Seeing as most of you stay at tipslash range - I know, I checked with ABBY before she could even block, I don't see the reason for all of this.

And no, you don't need to peddle to avoid massive spammers, just keep them at tipslash range. Block release animation takes about 200something milliseconds to complete, which would mean that if someone blockrushed at you you'd have enough time to reverse bf them and get away in those 200milliseconds (that's not including the massive animation delay).

I have stayed in one place in all fights for the last couple of weeks just blocking and trying to recoil people and watching the slash distance with ABBY. And you know what? Most of you guys slashspam at tipslash range at a stationary target. A lot of times when I do get a recoil (and decide not to massive so you guys don't QQ about spam) my opponent runs away as I get the first slash in.

Could I call that lame? Probably. But I don't because tipslash is a part of GLADIATOR. Same as massives. So stop QQing and change your tactics when you fight different opponents.

/rage off